Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Talking with Trainor- Jim Parinella, Death or Glory

Since the inception of this blog, two questions have persisted for me

-Is this site any good?
-Do people enjoy it?

I hope the answer to both is yes. Along these lines, I want to interview the stars/legends of the game.

Jim Parinella is one of these. He was one of the longest serving members of the Death of Glory dynasty (6 National / UPA Championships and 3 World Championships, including twice winning the gold as the U.S. National team at the World Flying Disc Federation (WFDF). DOG is now defunct, but Parinella is now equally known for his book on ultimate and his wisdom regarding the game.

Jim was my first choice for an interview. I don't know Jim, but I contacted him directly and tried my luck. He obliged without hesitation, and it has been a pleasure speaking with him. Here's the questions I asked him:

What's your greatest Ultimate accomplishment?

I’m going to cheat and list several from different areas. Playing, it’s being part of a team that went six straight years without losing a game
at Nationals. Professionally, it’s writing a book (with Eric Zaslow) and having it published by a leading publisher. Those are obvious. The unheralded greatest accomplishment is that I like to think that I made it more popular for top players to get involved again with making the sport better.

What's your worst moment in Ultimate?

Probably being part of the mob that lost to NYNY in the semis of Nationals in San Antonio in 1993. We should have been the better team that year but we didn’t handle ourselves well in any manner.

Favorite tournament city?

Either Naperville (despite its utter lack of charm) or Sarasota, because of the history of the tournaments there (Tuneup and Nationals, respectively). Just driving up to the fields every year brings back the memories.

Favorite Opponent? (Team/Individual)

Furious George from 1998-2002. Two high-powered offenses, strong defenses, very high respect for each other.

Who's the best player in the game today?

Despite my bias towards receivers, I’ll go with Jeff Cruickshank. He combines outstanding throws with terrific vision (plus he’s surprisingly fast after having his knees cleaned up). The more you know about the game, the more impressive his throws are. There was one throw in our game at Nationals last year. Upwind, also a crosswind coming from right-to-left, a guy is streaking down the center of the field just ahead of a defender, another defender is about to poach from behind, and he throws it over all of them to another cutter who is running down the downwind sideline. I was standing right behind him and watched it develop and didn't see the sideline cutter until the disc was well down the field and looking like an overthrow. I asked him about it and he insisted it was always to that guy. I then asked him why he didn't throw a thumber, which he did at Regionals last year, and he said the wind wasn't right for it.

Who's the best ever?

I can’t choose between Mooney and Dobyns. Both great players for a long time, and fiery team leaders to boot.

What's better- Vertical or Horizontal Stack?

Whatever works? I’m still trying to figure out whether the Ho Stack couldn’t be improved by a little more selective deep choices. Ho Stack seems easier to learn and allows Big Dumb Athletes to cut without needing to know about timing. I guess I still think a Vert Stack would be better for smart, athletic players.

Why is Boston Ultimate not using the DOG name?

I think they want their own identity. I wasn’t kept in the loop at all about it, so I don’t really know. Plus, I think there are only 12 guys from last year’s team, and only 3 of those guys were on the team in 2003.

What's wrong with Boston Ultimate this summer?

It’s probably just growing pains. DoG and Metal had vastly disparate playing styles last year, so integrating those must certainly be a challenge. And travel is always a challenge, especially across the country.

Why does the West dominate?

It does? By my count, the East has won 11 of the last 17 titles. (laughs). No, they dominate. It’s a positive feedback cycle. It’s a good place for outdoorsy young people to live, and the ultimate is good, so more people move there to play, and then they get better playing each other all the time. Constant testing really is important. Neither NY nor Boston would have won so many titles back in the 1990s if we didn’t have each other to battle against every couple weeks (we would play up to 10 times a year).

How does it feel to be a "legend" in a sport?
Mostly I like being a nanocelebrity, but sometimes I would prefer the anonymity of being lazy out there. People treat me nicely, I try to be nice in return. I don’t abuse it, but people seem to go out of their way to be fair to me. At least half a dozen times a year, an opponent will call a foul on himself against me (or more correctly, will suggest to me that he fouled me and wouldn’t contest it if called).

You talked about the rash of the " latest overpumped superstar who actually isn't that good". (Why College Ulitmate Sucks post) Are egos becoming more of a problem in today's game?

Nah, it’s not the egos so much as the style of play seems a little more Sportscenter-y. The Clip of the Day, while awesome, tends to reinforce this view of the game as being all about the highlight reel. To me, a great huck is one where the receiver catches the disc by himself, chest-high, just as he starts to slow down. There is a lot more to being a great player than throwing a flick 80 yards or jumping 4 feet high or running a 4.5 40. Then again, I might be the one who is taken in, thinking that COTD is a true representation of ultimate today.

Can you tell us something great to see/do in your hometown of Pittsburgh?

Get involved in the local ultimate scene. They have a remarkable youth program there, truly amazing what these kids are in charge of, and how closely tied they are to the club scene. Or take a ride into the city from the airport, emerging from a tunnel with the city right in front of you, then driving up to Mt. Washington at night for a panorama.

Should Canada get to compete in the UPAs?

I think so. I’d even go one step further and open it up to the rest of the world, while making sure that US teams aren’t inconvenienced at all (make all qualifiers in the US, make sure outside qualifiers are truly qualified, etc.). Perhaps invite the Pacific and European champions to UPAs (in essence, treat them at separate Regions with one or two spots allocated), or allow them to compete at the US qualifiers. It would become the de facto world championship instead of the North American championship. WFDF World Clubs are a great time, but as shown last year, they don’t have the cachet to make teams drop everything else and attend. Because it’s Outreach as much as it’s Competition, there are a lot of non-Worlds-caliber teams that attend. On the other hand, one very strong argument against is that it can create a problem in Worlds-qualifying years like this year or 4 years ago.

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Did you like the interview? Let Jim know. His blog link is http://parinella.blogspot.com/

Monday, August 27, 2007

Drop The Hammer and Sickle!!!


Nation,

I watched the 2005 Nationals DVD just now. It reminded me of something that has bothered me for some time.

In 2004 and 2005, the Men's open crown was won by a team called Nomads. For whatever reason, they decided to wear an Hammer and Sickle logo on their jerseys. Please see picture.

I don't want to rob teams the liberty of wearing jerseys and logos of their choice, but the Hammer and Sickle is a symbol of great evil to many people in Eastern Europe and the world.

If the Nomads come back, I hope they drop the logo. Wearing a logo that most identify with a government that killed a minimum of 3 million people (according to the Russian government post 1991, not counting civil wars, world wars or other strifes) really says something.

Canadian University Nationals Site is Up.

It's not a masterpiece of web sites, but it's extremely functional and appreciated.

http://student.vfs.com/~mhibbert/cuuc2007/index.html

It's also a reminder that I have to cover the regionals and uni nationals with previews!! I've got almost all e-mails for the eastern teams, but if you have captain contacts for more obscure western teams, send them to me please.

Steven

Saturday, August 25, 2007

The Lack of Stats in Ultimate- Is it Hindering Your Team?

Nation, (stealing Colbert's bit)

In terms of player evaluation (which was a large part of my masters studies), Ultimate is very much in its infant stages. As the game develops, I am sure that this will improve. However, as it stands, the selection process of players for teams or countries is quite simplistic. Have some tryouts. Watch the match-ups. Trust your minds eye.

The problem with the mind's eye is that it lies. We all love the teammate who can lay out and make d's. When we win, he/she gets a lot of credit. But over the course of a game, a tournament, a season, that d means a lot less in determining the outcome of our team's finish than our mind believes. Inefficient players who make lots of d's but also make too many drops and throwaways might be overrated by the time tested scouting system. Sadly, they sometimes get the edge in team selection over a more efficient, less flashy player.

Hey, if you can choose between almost equally efficient players, take the game breaking athlete! I just think we're currently unaware of how efficient our players are.

Teams are restricted by resources. It costs money and time to have games taped and analyzed. Player stats are not tracked even during tourney games for most competitive teams. Even worse, we sometimes hear the "stats are for nerds" line from the same people who say they'll seek any legal competitive edge to win. If you're too lazy to learn or stupid to fathom, just admit it and step aside. Insult gun back into its holster.

Improving player evaluation will take time. Someone will lead the charge and get an edge, and then others will try to copy the success. Look at baseball and Sabermetrics. Other pro leagues are trying to emulate baseball's "moneyball" ideas (Facing tougher challenges due to the organic nature of their sports).

How do we improve evaluation? Find someone/some way to track your teams stats. Develop working groups of ultimate players with the educational background to use the data.

I am more than willing to participate.

Thursday, August 23, 2007

The Discrepancy in Canadian Ultimate- Some VERY Simple Numbers


The east suffered a crushing blow at Nationals 2007.

How bad?

They didn't just take the division titles and the worlds berths. It was worse than that my friends. Western teams came into Toronto and consistently finished better than east teams in almost all Divisons:

Legend:
AT= Atlantic Teams
QC= Quebec Teams
ON= Ontario
PR= Prarie teams from Manitoba or Saskatchewan
AB= Alberta Teams
BC= British Columbia teams

Open:
20 Teams (2 AT, 4 QC, 8 ON, 2 PR, 1 AB, 2 BC)
Top 8 Breakdown: (O AT, 1 QC. 2 ON, 2 PR, 1 AB, 2 BC)
Note: 100% of Western teams made the top 8.

Women's
16 teams (1 AT, 3 QC, 9 ON, 1 AB, 2 BC)
Top 8 Breakdown (1 AT, 1 QC, 3 ON, 1 AB, 2 BC)
Note: 100% of Western teams made the top 8.

Mixed
20 Teams ( 3 AT, 6 QC, 6 ON, 1 PR, 2 AB, 2 BC)
Top 8 Breakdown (O AT, 2 QC, 4 ON, 0 PR, 0 AB, 2 BC)
Note: 40% of West teams made it to top 8

Juniors
11 teams (0 AT, 2 QC, 6 ON, 1 PR, 0 AB, 2 BC)
Top 8 Breakdown (0 AT, 1 QC, 4 ON, 1 PR, 0 AB, 2 BC)
Note: 100% of West teams made it to top 8

Masters
12 Teams (1 AT, 1 QC, 6 ON, 1 PR, 2 AB, 1 BC)
Top 8 Breakdown (0 AT, 1 QC, 4 ON, 1 PR, 1 AB, 1 BC)
Note: 75% of West teams made top 8
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Total West Teams: 20
West Teams in Top 8: 16
Percentage of West teams in the Top 8: 80%

Total Ontario Teams: 35
Teams in Top 8: 17
Percentage of teams in the Top 8: 48.6 %

Total Quebec Teams: 16
Teams in Top 8: 5
Percentage of teams in the Top 8: 31.2%

Total Atlantic Teams: 7
Teams in Top 8: 2
Percentage of teams in the Top 8: 29%

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Discussion- Who gets picked up for Worlds?


Readers,

Now that the World berths have been secured in Canada, the names of who will be picked up for Worlds in 2008 are being discussed.
  • What does each Worlds team need?
  • Who do they want?
Another question for discussion:
  • Should World teams keep the same roster that won the berth, or should they have full tryouts?

Monday, August 20, 2007

CUC 2007 - Juniors Analysis

Of all of the divisions, I am least educated on this years juniors division. However the very nature of annual change in the divisions leads to great interest for fans. New players each year lead to greater chances for upsets and surprises.

On a positive note, the number of teams and the equality within the juniors program seems to be improving. With regression analysis, I would hypothesize that improved coaching and larger levels of junior registration in local leagues are key factors. For example, I was happy to see Barrie with a strong and enthusiastic entry.

The semi finals featured the top four ranked teams from pool play. In one semi final, Backbone (Vancouver, and a great Juniors name BTW!) defeated OJ (Ottawa) 14-7. The other semi saw DIRT (Toronto) defeating perennial powerhouse MOFO (Winnipeg) 13-5. Ottawa managed to oust MOFO in the bronze medal game.

Setting up a great finish for BC teams in all CUC 2007 divisions, Backbone won a hotly contested final against hometown DIRT 16-15. Wow, that's a tough one. I just hope the leadership made the players realize the significance of the outcome (little) and the benefit of the experience (great).

After all results, it became apparent that west was indeed best at these Canadian nationals. Not only did Vancouver win in the Open, Womens, Mixed and Juniors categories, they took home a bronze in the Masters divisions. Can you think of a major league franchise that wins at virtually every level of minor and major league baseball? How often is it that a team wins the NHL's Stanley Cup and the AHL championship (Rare)? We're dealing with teams and not cities, but I hope you get my point.

I can sum up the Vancouver dominance in one word. Scary. Also of note in future postings will be the overall performance of other western provinces. Teams from Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan flew under the radar, but placed very well across the divisions. I look forward to your feedback.